On this episode of China Uncensored...Taiwan, China, what's the difference?
在這集《中國解密》...台灣、中國,有什麼不同?
Hi, welcome to China Uncensored. I'm your host, Chris Chappell. I've...never been to Kenya, and I certainly haven't been arrested there. But I hear their jails are great! Or at least, I presume they must be. That would explain why these 15 Taiwanese citizens in Nairobi, Kenya, attempted to barricade themselves in a jail cell.
嗨,歡迎收看《中國解密》。我是你們的主持人 Chris Chappell。我...從沒去過肯亞,而且我當然沒在那被逮捕過。不過我聽說肯亞的監獄超棒!或至少,我認為它們一定很棒。那就能解釋為什麼這 15 名在肯亞奈洛比的台灣公民試圖將自己擋在牢房裡。
Unfortunately, their delightful detainment wasn't to last. A few moments later, Kenyan police busted the door down, grabbed them, and put them on an airplane, and deported them to China. This China, not this China—even though they're from this China.
很可惜,他們愉快的監禁時光並未持續。一會兒後,肯亞警方破門而入、抓走他們,並將他們帶上飛機,然後將他們驅逐回中國。這個中國,不是這個中國--即使他們是從這個中國來的。
And if you're not familiar with the one-China policy that says both of these regions are China, watch this video. And if you are familiar with the one-China policy, you know why this awkward sending-Taiwanese-citizens-to-mainland-China thing is such a big deal.
如果你不熟悉主張這兩個區域都是中國的一中政策,看看這部影片。如果你熟悉一中政策,那你就知道為什麼這尷尬的「把台灣公民送到中國大陸」事件這麼大條了。
Here's what happened: These 15 people are part of a group of 45 Taiwan citizens who face charges in Kenya for telecom fraud. They had been accused of defrauding people in mainland China of more than 93 million dollars in a series of scams. I can only assume they pretended to be African princes seeking to transfer funds to unsuspecting victims.
事情是這樣的:這 15 人是在肯亞被控電信詐騙的 45 名台人集團的成員。他們被控欺騙大陸人民,在一系列騙局中詐取超過九千三百萬美元。我只能假設他們扮成試圖轉資金給毫無戒心的受害者的非洲王子(註一)。
Anyway, I'm not saying they didn't commit fraud. But they were acquitted by the Kenyan court—that is, not guilty. Yet the government of mainland China insisted that Kenya send these Taiwanese to mainland China for "investigation." As Kenya's Interior Ministry spokesperson put it, "They came from China and we took them to China."
總之,我不是在說他們沒有詐騙。不過他們被肯亞法庭宣告無罪--也就是,清白的。然而中國大陸政府堅持要肯亞當局將這些台人送到中國「偵查」。肯亞內政部發言人說法:「他們從中國來,而我們把他們帶到中國。」
Now, it's not that Kenyan officials are too dumb to realize that being from China and being from Taiwan are not the same thing. They just want to respect the one-China policy, where Kenya only recognizes the CCP and not the Taiwan government as the legitimate rulers of all China. As the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson put it, "Countries which follow the one-China principle are worthy of approval."
現在,並不是肯亞官方太笨搞不懂,不知道來自中國和來自台灣是不一樣的事。他們只是想尊重一中政策,肯亞只承認中共,而非台灣政府,為全中國的合法統治者。就像中國外交部發言人說的:「遵循一中原則的國家是值得肯定的。」
But while Kenya may get a gold star from the CCP, they're actually violating their own policy, because the Kenyan court issued an order to not deport these people. So, why would they do it? Could it possibly have to do with...money?
不過儘管肯亞可能從中共那得到乖寶寶獎章,他們其實是在違反自己的政策,因為肯亞法庭發出不要驅逐這些人的命令。所以,他們為什麼要這樣做呢?有沒有可能是...和錢有關?
Now I'm not saying these Taiwanese citizens didn't commit fraud. You may be innocent unless proven guilty in America, and in Kenya, and in Taiwan. But in mainland China, you're only innocent until you're forced to confess on state-run television. Because that's what actually happened.
我不是在說這些台灣人沒有詐騙。你在美國除非被證實有罪,不然就可能是無辜的,還有在肯亞,以及在台灣也是。不過在中國大陸,你只有在被迫上國營電視台認罪前才是清白的。因為那是確實發生的情況。
And if this case is any indication, now it could potentially happen to any Taiwanese citizen accused of a crime overseas, even if they're found not guilty.
倘若這案件是任何象徵,現在這情況可能發生到任何在海外被控犯罪的台灣公民身上,即便他們是清白的。
So what do you think? Leave your comments, or confessions, below. And please support this show on Patreon. Once again, I'm Chris Chappell. See you next time!
那你怎麼想呢?在下方留下你的意見,或口供。還有拜託在 Patreon 網站上支持這個節目。再說一次,我是 Chris Chappell。我們下次再見!
註一:暗指「奈及利亞詐騙」,是跨國詐騙集團以奈及利亞為名而設的騙局。詳細資訊可見警政署網頁:https://www.165.gov.tw/news.aspx?id=1141。
- 「至少」- At Least
But I hear their jails are great! Or at least, I presume they must be.
不過我聽說肯亞的監獄超棒!或至少,我認為它們一定很棒。